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Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 08:30:00 - [1] Originally by: Sinlare I think that's something you say when you don't know who it is. Forum post exposing something? probably an alt. Spy on TS? probably an alt.. someone petitioned? probably an alt.. Don't tinfoil up so much, i really can't believe people are so easily misleaded. If by "tinfoil" you mean "totally reasonable and justified suspicion at this point".
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 12:55:00 - [2] Originally by: Reiisha 1) Do you seriously expect the devs to not play the game they are making? Do you expect id or epic to not play quake or unreal? Do you expect blizzard to not play WoW? Are you idiots? Actually, as far as I'm aware, the restrictions and penalties that Blizzard has on employees who play the game are far, far more stringent than the ones on CCP employees. Quote: It's just hilarious to see people who know absolutely nothing about anything relating to this coming in and speaking like they know everything. Again, they are idiots, and i really hope they don't start attacking me for saying this, but realizing what the hell they're doing and start to stop behaving like this. What the hell am i typing this, for, people will either ignore this post or just flame me for being BoB. Yeah, they're idiots. Of course, it could have nothing to do with the fact that most of your post is a rambling preemptive troll to be begin with. Sorry, I just don't believe categorical denials by BoB members. Let's have CCP perform an open investigation and see what's really going on.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 13:29:00 - [3] Edited by: Anonymous Coward on 31/01/2007 13:25:56 Originally by: Reiisha This is exactly the kind of crap i'm talking about. Why? Because someone told you not to? Because you're jumping on the train of people who hate bob? I'd bet a lot on you saying this just because other people did. It just takes one guy to instigate a riot, as has been proven by this very thread. I still don't get why people don't get this. Probably because I see BoB members lie repeatedly and otherwise dance semantic games? And jeNK has a point. Quote: Better yet. I was in IAC just a couple of days ago. Why should i suddenly be untrustworthy? Even better yet, if you just recently joined BoB, did you also get a directorship and access to their command forums? Because I think it's somewhat amusing that somebody who just joined a few days ago is making statements like this: Quote: It's just hilarious to see people who know absolutely nothing about anything relating to this coming in and speaking like they know everything. Again, they are idiots, and i really hope they don't start attacking me for saying this, but realizing what the hell they're doing and start to stop behaving like this. So, do you have that access? Perhaps there are things going on outside your knowledge.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 13:53:00 - [4] Originally by: La Tortura Just a short list of losely related issues, to sum it up - someone tried to buy out Expanded Cargohold BPO's a week before they magically turn up into Expanded Cargohold II BPO's. Was this issue investigated? Was IP of the alt who posted the topic on the forum compared with IP's of people playing the game to find out where was the likely source of the leak? - a pimped out with officer mods scorp was blown up and looted in 0.0. They said it was a mistake of a newbie GM who wanted to show off or whatnot, which costed him his job, but it more seems like that scorp was just blown up by the wrong people, not by those who supposed to have it done. - Strategically placed G pos was atacked by Aurora event dreads with the support of F-E (and maybe ATUK as well, dun remeber) in the middle of the war. - A Hel had been put as an ISD event reward for some pos stuff worth about 4B total and shortly after was claimed by an LV corp. Lately it was found out that all event plans for a halfyear was somewhat compromised, but AFAIK there were no consequences on that particular case. - And now these hacked logs, that prove that info about events was leaked from CCP, that CCP members had/have key positions in one of alliances, that these members left to that alliance some T2 bpos for free after they had to leave it, that alliance leaders well knew who there these members etc etc etc, too much stuff to write. Thank you very much for summing this up nicely, good post.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 14:15:00 - [5] Originally by: Ifni So the proof is IP logs? It's funny because I logged onto forums when I was doing EVETV, from CCP. Most of the rest of the rest of the team did, and they sure as hell aren't devs. However, we must be since, like, the logs show it... Hundreds of posts were made from the same IP address.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 14:24:00 - [6] Originally by: DB Preacher OMG KUGUTSMEN SAID IT WAS SO!!!!!111111 Seriously, idiots. Well, we're going to find out, aren't we? Besides, I'm inclined to put more stock in what he's saying than you are--particularly since you just admitted that you have a very vested interest in this.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 14:53:00 - [7] Edited by: Anonymous Coward on 31/01/2007 14:50:14 Originally by: Niobe Farstar Edited by: Niobe Farstar on 31/01/2007 14:41:35 Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 31/01/2007 13:51:16 This would be equivelent to us releasing cyvok's real name on the net...He is making rubbish up and attacking individuals playing the game by releasing REAL LIFE information about them. "He's breaching my IRL privacy!" "So you did the things he said you did?" "No I mean he's making stuff up!" "So he's not breaching your privacy?" "-dbp" Indeed. So is the official BoB stance on this that he hacked your forums, but then has posted completely fraudulent made-up stuff and done heaven knows what with the real dirt?
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:07:00 - [8] I'm just sitting here laughing at the BoB bloc with this "are you a communist/witch" hilarity. The truth never damages a just cause. And it's a damned simple question.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:10:00 - [9] Originally by: NTRabbit Curious question, but since when is the Guiding Hand Social Club a member of the BoB bloc? You absolutely have my apologies, I looked at your avatar rather than the corp text underneath and thought you were someone else. However, I still don't think it's an apt comparison.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:12:00 - [10] Also, shouldn't this really be in General Discussion rather than CAOD?
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:19:00 - [11] Originally by: Hennry Fromer I think I have seen this pattern before; "Shes a witch - tie a weight to her and toss her in the lake if she floats we will burn her and if she drowns she was innocent." Dianabolic could choose to say, "I have never knowingly received a BPO from a dev", the thing about this question is that there are no false positives.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:29:00 - [12] Originally by: DTee ASCN cry me a river. Bitter much? This bandwagon involves little else then some posts from a hacker. Who again as I've said from his chosen profession has little credibility. Yeah, isn't it kind of funny how people are choosing to believe him over the words of BoB members? I wonder why that is?
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Kryztal You people fail to realize that this has nothing to do with BoB. Yes this guy is claiming there are Dev's in BoB, but rest assure there are devs in many corps out there. These allegations are that there are at least 5 CCP employees in BoB--that kind of clustering cannot be healthy for the integrity of the game.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:35:00 - [14] Originally by: Trask Kilraen One thing that hopes happens is that all characters associated with Devs should not be allowed to "win" T2 BPOs In the same way that radio stations and the like do not allow employees to enter contests. If if the win is legitimate, there is always the whiff of foul play. BoB may have all their gobs of T2 BPOs legitimately... but for sure their is a veil of suspicion over them. Frankly I'm really surprised that it wasn't done that way from the beginning, there's just too much incentive for misdeeds particularly given the very signficant value of some BPOs.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:39:00 - [15] Originally by: dimensionZ Your want proofs ? Catch me ingame. Is this offer extended to everyone? And, if not, jeNK, could you please relay in the interests of openness?
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 16:20:00 - [16] Originally by: dimensionZ Why would I ? I have no reasons to answer you. I merely give my POV about what is happening. If i do not want to reply, i wont. Can you tell us why you won't answer the question?
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 16:24:00 - [17] Edited by: Anonymous Coward on 31/01/2007 16:21:38 Originally by: DTee because you are anobody? and he nas nothing to answer for to you? It's very interesting to watch various people dig their own graves right in front of your eyes. Refusal and insult are not your best political options here, trust me.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 16:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Dianabolic If you just want to interview me, Galimiy, feel free to do so through eve-mail. You're now just asking questions for the sake of it. Dodge, dodge, dodge.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 16:56:00 - [19] Originally by: Dianabolic And this stops you publishing your logs, how? Won't get you as much attnetion? I reply to eve-mail, try using it, you won't get any further response from me here. Because we all know just how terrible it would be for this information to be made public, right?
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 17:05:00 - [20] Originally by: Sinlare You're the drama queen here, go troll elsewhere. Wanting more information to be known? How horrible!
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.01.31 17:59:00 - [21] Originally by: RemDakar Every player who finds this completely unacceptable should cancel thier subscriptions until CCP actually resolves this issue. CCP needs to be shown that this won't be tolerated within the community and we need to hit them where it will have the biggest affect, in the wallet. costing them a large amount of subscription costs will force them to make changes. Perhaps cancel and let them know we intend to renew if this situation is handled in a satisfactory fashion.

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